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		<title>Comment on Kraftwerk and the Ultimate Man-Machine by 10 January 2005: Kraftwerk and Cycling &#124; the bike show</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/articles/kraftwerk-and-the-ultimate-man-machine/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>10 January 2005: Kraftwerk and Cycling &#124; the bike show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jack Thurston&#8217;s feature on Kraftwerk and cycling first published in Rouleur magazine. &#160;  &#160;10 January 2005: [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Splash! by Aleppo</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/splash/2008/05/14/#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust you've read 'Waterlog' by Roger Deakin?</description>
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		<title>Comment on The man who put the vice into Vice President by Deb Bailey</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/the-man-who-put-the-vice-into-vice-president/2008/05/15/#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Kennedy's measured, heartfelt concern and thoughts about how to heal the soul of this country are in stark contrast to the arrogant name-calling, and dismissive attitude of Spiro Agnew. Kennedy had vision. Agnew sarcasm. Kennedy sought healing through discourse, Agnew sought to squelch it. Kennedy offered hope, Agnew cynicism. Kennedy listened. Agnew derided.

When you listen to Kennedy, you felt there was a way out. When you listen to Agnew...you just feel depressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Kennedy&#8217;s measured, heartfelt concern and thoughts about how to heal the soul of this country are in stark contrast to the arrogant name-calling, and dismissive attitude of Spiro Agnew. Kennedy had vision. Agnew sarcasm. Kennedy sought healing through discourse, Agnew sought to squelch it. Kennedy offered hope, Agnew cynicism. Kennedy listened. Agnew derided.</p>
<p>When you listen to Kennedy, you felt there was a way out. When you listen to Agnew&#8230;you just feel depressed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on London&#8217;s Mayoral elections: maxmising my voice by strategic use of preference voting by Jon Worth</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/london-elections-strategy/2008/04/18/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, good... :-)

I've never been involved with the technicalities of an AV election, only STV elections, and there you have a variety of weights for the re-distributions (although they don't do that in Ireland).

This explains it:
http://pl.atyp.us/misc/votefaq.txt


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Single Transferable Vote (STV)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is a system for electing multiple candidates in a constituency.
Each voter marks '1' against the candidate they most like, '2' against
their next favourite, and so on until they have no preference for the 
remaining candidates.

The highest preferences for each candidate are counted. If any 
candidate has more votes than the Quota, they are elected. The Quota
is calculated as:
   Quota = int(V/(N 1))   1

where:
   V = number of votes
   N = number of candidates to be elected
   int() = convert to integer, rounding down

The rationale for this formula is that the quota is the smallest
number of votes such that the candidate is certain to be within
the top N candidates.

If someone is above the quota, the additional votes above the quota
are reallocated to the other candidates according to the voters'
lower preferences. This is done by giving each vote of the candidate 
a fractional value according to the fraction that the candidate was
above the quota. 

(In Ireland they use the simpler, but less precise, system of simply 
picking a bunch of the candidate's ballot papers at random and using 
those for reallocation.)

If no-one is above the quota, the candidate with the smallest number
of votes is eliminated, and their votes are reallocated to other 
candidates.

When votes are reallocated, if the voter has expressed no further
lower preferences, their vote is discarded.

This procedure is continued until all N candidates are elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, good&#8230; <img src='http://jackthurston.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve never been involved with the technicalities of an AV election, only STV elections, and there you have a variety of weights for the re-distributions (although they don&#8217;t do that in Ireland).</p>
<p>This explains it:<br />
<a href="http://pl.atyp.us/misc/votefaq.txt" rel="nofollow">http://pl.atyp.us/misc/votefaq.txt</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Single Transferable Vote (STV)<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
This is a system for electing multiple candidates in a constituency.<br />
Each voter marks &#8216;1&#8242; against the candidate they most like, &#8216;2&#8242; against<br />
their next favourite, and so on until they have no preference for the<br />
remaining candidates.</p>
<p>The highest preferences for each candidate are counted. If any<br />
candidate has more votes than the Quota, they are elected. The Quota<br />
is calculated as:<br />
   Quota = int(V/(N 1))   1</p>
<p>where:<br />
   V = number of votes<br />
   N = number of candidates to be elected<br />
   int() = convert to integer, rounding down</p>
<p>The rationale for this formula is that the quota is the smallest<br />
number of votes such that the candidate is certain to be within<br />
the top N candidates.</p>
<p>If someone is above the quota, the additional votes above the quota<br />
are reallocated to the other candidates according to the voters&#8217;<br />
lower preferences. This is done by giving each vote of the candidate<br />
a fractional value according to the fraction that the candidate was<br />
above the quota. </p>
<p>(In Ireland they use the simpler, but less precise, system of simply<br />
picking a bunch of the candidate&#8217;s ballot papers at random and using<br />
those for reallocation.)</p>
<p>If no-one is above the quota, the candidate with the smallest number<br />
of votes is eliminated, and their votes are reallocated to other<br />
candidates.</p>
<p>When votes are reallocated, if the voter has expressed no further<br />
lower preferences, their vote is discarded.</p>
<p>This procedure is continued until all N candidates are elected.</p>
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		<title>Comment on London&#8217;s Mayoral elections: maxmising my voice by strategic use of preference voting by Jack Thurston</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/london-elections-strategy/2008/04/18/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, in the second round there is no difference in weight between a first preference vote and a redistributed second preference vote. 

Fractional transfer is pretty rare, certainly for mass elections. I believe it is used more for elections with a rather smaller electorate (say a University board or such like).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in the second round there is no difference in weight between a first preference vote and a redistributed second preference vote. </p>
<p>Fractional transfer is pretty rare, certainly for mass elections. I believe it is used more for elections with a rather smaller electorate (say a University board or such like).</p>
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		<title>Comment on London&#8217;s Mayoral elections: maxmising my voice by strategic use of preference voting by Jon Worth</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/london-elections-strategy/2008/04/18/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the redistribution the transfer of a complete vote? You don't transfer fractions as in some STV systems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the redistribution the transfer of a complete vote? You don&#8217;t transfer fractions as in some STV systems?</p>
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		<title>Comment on In search of London&#8217;s drinking fountains (and cattle troughs) by IanVisits&#8230; &#187; A drinking fountain on Holborn Viaduct</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/in-search-of-londons-drinking-fountains-and-cattle-troughs/2007/08/31/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>IanVisits&#8230; &#187; A drinking fountain on Holborn Viaduct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Drinking fountains on Google Maps [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on A gentleman or a player? by Freesteel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; undemocracy.com goes on strike</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/a-gentleman-or-a-player/2007/09/07/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Freesteel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; undemocracy.com goes on strike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Bike Show presents the British premier of Raes&#8217;s Symphony for Singing Bicycles by Retro Bicycles</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/the-bike-show-presents-the-british-premier-of-raess-symphony-for-singing-bicycles/2007/07/03/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Retro Bicycles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me an old cool bicycle, and I'll ride around the city for days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me an old cool bicycle, and I&#8217;ll ride around the city for days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In search of London&#8217;s drinking fountains (and cattle troughs) by Jack Thurston</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/in-search-of-londons-drinking-fountains-and-cattle-troughs/2007/08/31/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, but there's no satellite image on openstreetmap, so it's much harder to pinpoint the cattle troughs precisely. though if I had a gps device I guess I could record them that way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, but there&#8217;s no satellite image on openstreetmap, so it&#8217;s much harder to pinpoint the cattle troughs precisely. though if I had a gps device I guess I could record them that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In search of London&#8217;s drinking fountains (and cattle troughs) by Julian Todd</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/in-search-of-londons-drinking-fountains-and-cattle-troughs/2007/08/31/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real home for this kind of stuff is the open street map project.  For example: 

http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.499054&#38;mlon=-0.199341&#38;zoom=14

This is something which has really taken off.  Your water fountains would get tagged under the following feature: 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Potable_Water</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real home for this kind of stuff is the open street map project.  For example: </p>
<p><a href="http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.499054&amp;mlon=-0.199341&amp;zoom=14" rel="nofollow">http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.499054&amp;mlon=-0.199341&amp;zoom=14</a></p>
<p>This is something which has really taken off.  Your water fountains would get tagged under the following feature: </p>
<p><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Potable_Water" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Potable_Water</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on In search of London&#8217;s drinking fountains (and cattle troughs) by Tony Hine</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/in-search-of-londons-drinking-fountains-and-cattle-troughs/2007/08/31/#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;&#62;environmentally catastrophic bottled water</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;environmentally catastrophic bottled water</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bike Show presents the British premier of Raes&#8217;s Symphony for Singing Bicycles by Jez</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/the-bike-show-presents-the-british-premier-of-raess-symphony-for-singing-bicycles/2007/07/03/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Jez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jack. Yes, the podcasts work fine all the way back to the London cycling at the beginning of December 2004. Blimey, you've turned me into a trainspotter of the bicycle world - even the sound of Brompton bike hinges being forged at the factory was somehow unexpectedly satisfying. My favourite music track from all the episodes is the Eek-a-Mouse one. Great track, genius name for a musician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jack. Yes, the podcasts work fine all the way back to the London cycling at the beginning of December 2004. Blimey, you&#8217;ve turned me into a trainspotter of the bicycle world - even the sound of Brompton bike hinges being forged at the factory was somehow unexpectedly satisfying. My favourite music track from all the episodes is the Eek-a-Mouse one. Great track, genius name for a musician.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bike Show presents the British premier of Raes&#8217;s Symphony for Singing Bicycles by Jack Thurston</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/the-bike-show-presents-the-british-premier-of-raess-symphony-for-singing-bicycles/2007/07/03/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jez
I'm glad you're enjoying the show. Just as a matter of interest, how far back are the downloads working on iTunes? The reason I ask is that the older shows are hosted on a less reliable server, and I'm not sure if they're working as well as the ones on archive.org. There should be around 75 episodes in total, going back to December 2004. 
The next season will start towards the end of the autumn, early winter. 
Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jez<br />
I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re enjoying the show. Just as a matter of interest, how far back are the downloads working on iTunes? The reason I ask is that the older shows are hosted on a less reliable server, and I&#8217;m not sure if they&#8217;re working as well as the ones on archive.org. There should be around 75 episodes in total, going back to December 2004.<br />
The next season will start towards the end of the autumn, early winter.<br />
Jack</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bike Show presents the British premier of Raes&#8217;s Symphony for Singing Bicycles by Jez</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/the-bike-show-presents-the-british-premier-of-raess-symphony-for-singing-bicycles/2007/07/03/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>Jez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just discovered The Bike Show podcasts on iTunes. I downloaded the lot after becoming completely addicted and I've listened to them all. Now I've got cold turkey. I hope the show comes back soon - I'm telling all my fellow cyclists in London about it. Love the reggae choices too. There - that's the first fan letter I've written since I sent one to Derek Dougan of Wolverhampton Wanderers FC in 1974 (he never replied).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered The Bike Show podcasts on iTunes. I downloaded the lot after becoming completely addicted and I&#8217;ve listened to them all. Now I&#8217;ve got cold turkey. I hope the show comes back soon - I&#8217;m telling all my fellow cyclists in London about it. Love the reggae choices too. There - that&#8217;s the first fan letter I&#8217;ve written since I sent one to Derek Dougan of Wolverhampton Wanderers FC in 1974 (he never replied).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Food that makes you go Yuck! by Jack Thurston</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/food-that-makes-you-go-yuck/2007/02/12/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gregor,
Thanks for that - all very interesting stuff and we'd like to do it at farmsubsidy.org. We have done it for some countries as a trial (Sweden, Denmark), but most country governments have refused to give us any point data on where the recipient of the farm subsidy actually is. They usually give a region instead, which can often be rather large (England has 8 regions). So this data is not so amenable to mapping. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gregor,<br />
Thanks for that - all very interesting stuff and we&#8217;d like to do it at farmsubsidy.org. We have done it for some countries as a trial (Sweden, Denmark), but most country governments have refused to give us any point data on where the recipient of the farm subsidy actually is. They usually give a region instead, which can often be rather large (England has 8 regions). So this data is not so amenable to mapping.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Food that makes you go Yuck! by Gregor J. Rothfuss</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/food-that-makes-you-go-yuck/2007/02/12/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor J. Rothfuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trying to get in touch about farmsubsidy.org, your email bounces..

hi,

you have a wonderful dataset, and i admire your work for transparency. have you considered overlaying it on a map? i suspect that the juxtaposition of where the money goes and whether that area is even rural will be highly interesting and drive your point home even more.

the easiest to do this would be with google maps.

i'd be happy to provide pointers if you are interested, but for now, consider these examples:

http://gecensus.stanford.edu/gcensus/index.html
http://www.healthcarethatworks.org/maps/nyc/
http://www.bethefullstop.com/map
http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/03/us_government_p.html
http://forwardtrack.eyebeamresearch.org/

there are many more at http://del.icio.us/tag/mapping advocacy

best,

-gregor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trying to get in touch about farmsubsidy.org, your email bounces..</p>
<p>hi,</p>
<p>you have a wonderful dataset, and i admire your work for transparency. have you considered overlaying it on a map? i suspect that the juxtaposition of where the money goes and whether that area is even rural will be highly interesting and drive your point home even more.</p>
<p>the easiest to do this would be with google maps.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d be happy to provide pointers if you are interested, but for now, consider these examples:</p>
<p><a href="http://gecensus.stanford.edu/gcensus/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://gecensus.stanford.edu/gcensus/index.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.healthcarethatworks.org/maps/nyc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthcarethatworks.org/maps/nyc/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.bethefullstop.com/map" rel="nofollow">http://www.bethefullstop.com/map</a><br />
<a href="http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/03/us_government_p.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/03/us_government_p.html</a><br />
<a href="http://forwardtrack.eyebeamresearch.org/" rel="nofollow">http://forwardtrack.eyebeamresearch.org/</a></p>
<p>there are many more at <a href="http://del.icio.us/tag/mapping" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/tag/mapping</a> advocacy</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>-gregor</p>
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		<title>Comment on My last ever Powerpoint presentation by Cook</title>
		<link>http://jackthurston.com/my-last-ever-powerpoint-presentation/2007/01/04/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's simply no comparison: Keynote is far superior to Powerpoint.  But your talks have always been terrific, Jack;now they'll just get better. 

And yes, the trick is to have the slides illustrate, decorate, not dictate what you say.  

Our favorite example of how bad Powerpoints are the death of real communication is Peter Norvig's celebrated send up of the Gettysburg address:

http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/

Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s simply no comparison: Keynote is far superior to Powerpoint.  But your talks have always been terrific, Jack;now they&#8217;ll just get better. </p>
<p>And yes, the trick is to have the slides illustrate, decorate, not dictate what you say.  </p>
<p>Our favorite example of how bad Powerpoints are the death of real communication is Peter Norvig&#8217;s celebrated send up of the Gettysburg address:</p>
<p><a href="http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/" rel="nofollow">http://norvig.com/Gettysburg/</a></p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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